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Red Light Cameras Get Council Green Light

The city will keep its contract with RedFlex Traffic Systems in place until it ends in February 2014 and do another analysis of the program at that time.

 

Walnut’s red light cameras won’t be going away anytime soon. 

The City Council Wednesday night voted 5-0 to keep the cameras at the Temple/Amar/Grand intersection, citing safety as the main reason.

Councilman Tom King, who pushed to get the cameras before they were approved in 2007, said red light violations are down to 200 a month from more than 600 before installation.

“Before the cameras, that intersection was at an F level,” he said.  “The intersection was performing substandard.”

Resident Michael West, who has said he thinks the cameras do more harm than good when it comes to safety, attended the early part of the council meeting and spoke against the city’s contract with Arizona-based RedFlex Traffic Systems. 

He called for the contract to be renegotiated, adding that he felt the term of the agreement was too long and didn’t provide needed clauses to get out of it if desired.

“It looks like a slick corporation came in here, dictated the terms, and you all signed that,” West said.

King and Mayor Nancy Tragarz later corrected the record, pointing out that the contract was for five years, not seven as West had stated, and that there are provisions in the agreement to terminate it for cause.

Walnut pays $181,116 annually for the program.  The city gets an estimated $130,000 a year in revenue, which it must use for public safety expenses.

Staff reported that severing the contract before it expired would cost $365,000 plus another $25,000 to $50,000 related to the cost of removing the equipment early.  

King also accused West of misrepresenting the facts when it comes to safety. 

West has said that the fact that accidents, particularly the rear-end kind, have increased since the cameras were installed in 2007 proves that the cameras have not made the intersection safer.  King said during his comments that the statistics are often meaningless.  When you have three one year and five the next, that is not a substantial increase, he said.

The city had 10 collisions at the intersection in 2007, the year the cameras were installed, 12 in 2008, 13 in 2009, and 17 in 2010, according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department.

Accidents at the two approaches where the cameras were placed totaled eight in 2007, seven in 2008, six in 2009 and five in 2010.  Broadside collisions remained low in total but rear end collisions increased for the intersection as a whole.

Red light cameras have been in the news lately.  The Los Angeles City Council ended its camera program effective July 31 after finding out that the Los Angeles County Superior Court did not have the resources needed to go after drivers failing to pay their fines.

Councilman Joaquin Lim said the lack of enforcement of the fines in Los Angeles is what prompted him to ask that staff do an analysis.

City Attorney Michael Montgomery said he and staff met with the presiding judge and others at the Pomona branch of the court and were told that all of the branches are still enforcing collection of the fines.  The central court in Los Angeles is not due to staffing problems, Montgomery said.

Staff said that Walnut has one of the highest collection rates for fines at 73 percent, second only to Beverly Hills at around 80 percent.

Lim asked what about the remaining 28 percent of so.

Montgomery said the city could swear out a complaint requesting the court issue a warrant, but he said he was not sure that was economically feasible.

“Our agent has been very good at resolving matters in the hallway that never get to the courtroom,” he said.

King said one of the main reasons why red light cameras are so controversial is because of the cost of the tickets.  Fines are typically in the $400 to $500 range.  He said while he agrees that they are too costly, Walnut can’t do anything to change it.

“That’s not the city’s problem,” he said of the fines.  “That complaint needs to go to the Legislature, who put the fines on the red light cameras, and to the courts.”

 

 

 

Related Topics: Los Angeles, Los Angeles County Superior Court, Red Light Cameras, RedFlex, and Walnut City Council
Do you think red light cameras help to make the streets safer for drivers and pedestrians? Tell us in the comments.

St Pete Driver

3:57 am on Thursday, August 25, 2011

The only way the red light cameras "work" is by generating money for red light camera companies.

If you actually read all of the studies on red light cameras(there are dozens of them out there, many more than the 2 or 3 that advocates mention) you will see that red light cameras lead to a significant increase in crashes and injuries. If you don't believe me, go ahead and read all of the studies for yourself:

http://www.stpetecameras.org/home/rlc-studies

If they were truly interested in improving safety, they would increase the yellow signal time by one additional second. Doing this has proven in Virginia, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Texas, New Mexico, Missouri and California to be more effective at preventing red light running than red light cameras are, but nobody makes money that way.

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Nancy Tragarz

12:36 pm on Thursday, August 25, 2011

Please read the staff report and the attached contract, which is linked to last night's agenda on the City website for the correct informaion on Walnut's red light camera. The contract clearly states under "Term" "5 years", Contrary to Mr. West's statements last night Redflex, NOT Walnut pays for the {installation and} REMOVAL of the equipment, which is expensive. That is why there is a 5 year term requirement. As noted in report and supported by Sherriff's statistics, accidents in the two approaches with the camera have been declining over the last three years.

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Joseph Steiner

1:02 pm on Thursday, August 25, 2011

The only thing that the city coucil likes is money. It really does not have anything to do with safety because people are running redlights all over the city. It has not made this intersection any safer. Most drivers know which cameras are working and which are not.
On top of that the company that owns Redflex Australian and not even American.
This is as bad as the state legistlature coming up with laws that they cannot enforce because there are not enough law enforcement to enforcement.
I am sure glad when I can leave this city and the council.

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Michael West

1:58 pm on Thursday, August 25, 2011

Joe, It's not fair to accuse only the Council for liking money from taxpayers- the Redflex Corporation makes a lot too! They get a nice cut from the fine that the Walnut driver pays. Their earnings are up 31.4% this year.
http://www.redflex.com/public_documents/asx_announcements/2011-08-23%20FY2011%20Results.pdf

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Joseph Steiner

3:12 pm on Thursday, August 25, 2011

Michael, just think of all the money that is going overseas from Walnut, instead of staying in this country and creating jobs here in the US. Maybe we should let Maxine Waters know so that she can see it is not just Tea Party that is her enemy.

Nancy Tragarz

1:26 pm on Thursday, August 25, 2011

P.S. while accidents in the two approaches at Grand/Amar WITHOUT the red light camera have been increasing over the last three years. Hence, people know the camera is there so they are stopping as the evidence shows, with declining violations (tickets) and accidents over the years.

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Michael West

11:51 am on Friday, August 26, 2011

Add Houston, TX to the list of City Councils that dumped their red light camera program. They BROKE the contract with ATS to put their citizens first! I wish the Walnut Council would show some bold leadership and kick out the foreign corporation that runs Walnut's ticket camera. http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/26/houston-city-council-votes-to-shut-off-red-light-cameras/

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Robert Corona

5:10 pm on Thursday, October 13, 2011

That corner is total entrapment... I avoid it like the plague... Many people
just cut across the gas station on the corner.. come out the other side..
Maybe leave it up to the voters? Put it on a ballot?
I don't know if its feasible,, we should have a choice as to whom we give our money to.

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Michael West

5:40 pm on Thursday, October 13, 2011

There is only one way to get that ticket camera down- get the right people on the Walnut City Council! I am firmly against that ticket camera because it has made that intersection less safe and a big portion of the fine money goes to a foreign corporation (Redflex). Mayor NANCY TRAGARZ and TONY CARTAGENA have publically supported keeping it up. Now, let's see who falsely accuses me of misrepresenting what I just wrote.

Love Walnut

8:08 pm on Thursday, October 13, 2011

Gracious, want some cheese with that whine? Let it go. As a human you cannot always be either right or wrong. It is the gratuitous and repetitive attacks in ALL CAPS that are getting old. Is your point that you have a point, or that someone else is wrong. If you want to be on council tell us why you are good, not why others are bad.

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Michael West

8:57 am on Friday, October 14, 2011

Pointing out the incumbents' voting record is not an attack at all, it’s a public service. Getting rid of the red light camera would be good for Walnut drivers. I call out their names, boldly, so people will know who is doing what, instead of complaining about “the Council.” Tragarz & Cartagena should be proud of their support of the ticket camera- I would be proud of every one of my votes. How is this an attack?

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